A Response To Huan Cheng Guan
If you don’t know who HCG is, he is the one standing in front of KTK!
I would like to respond to the Press Statement issued by the Vice President of Parti Gerakan Rakyat Malaysia, Mr. Huan Cheng Guan (HCG) of 2 days earlier.
In his statement he ask for greater representation for the National Youth of Parti Gerakan in public administration especially with the establishment of the new Ministry in the Prime Minister’s Department in charge of Unity and Performance Management. Mr Huan therefore proposed me, to take up the position of the Political Secretary to Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon in this new Ministry.
I would like to make it clear that Mr Huan Cheng Guan has never consulted the National Youth Central Committee nor myself on his proposal. Neither has the Central Committee of the National Youth had any discussion on this matter. We believe that any appointments as far as Tan Sri Dr Koh’s ministry is concerned, shall be Dr Koh’s sole prerogative.
I personally will not accept any appointment in this new ministry as my work in the corporate sector does not allow me the time nor the flexibility to do so.
The National Youth would like to urge Mr Huan Cheng Guan to take responsibility for his statements and require him to consult the National Youth Central Committee in the future if it involves members in the Youth Wing of Parti Gerakan.
We regret that his statement has created confusion and it remains a unilateral action on his (HCG) part.
Ragavan
April 14th, 2009 at 5:28 am
Sdra,
Well first of all i would like you to know this is the 1st time im commenting on your site evantough i have been following all ur articles closely. Well this article make me think that i should bring up my opinion.
As a youth chairman, i believe you are there just because of the former president who is your father. What make me say this is, your statement that you are a busy corporate figure who cant take responsibilities. You should feel honored when your VP suggest you to a high post.
For you to respond back rudely shows you are lack of leadership qualities. I am disappointed that the national youth chairman is saying he is busy with his business. So whats the point we down here work hard for the future success of Gerakan?
Well i salute you for admitting you are busy with business, but please do the party a favor, ‘RESIGN’ !
Hang Tuah
April 14th, 2009 at 5:34 am
I am very SAD, not because of what Huan had to say or with your response to Huan. I am very SAD that knowing you are so tied up with your corporate work, YOU STILL WANT TO FIGHT FOR THE KETUA PEMUDA.. What Gerakan needs NOW is a person who can commit almost full-time…
what a let down….
veloo ushpakethu
April 14th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Dear Mr.Huan Cheng Guan.
our society need great leader like you. your afford from the beginning until now we appreciated and we all believe that your right person, qualify leader with your experience and knowledge please accept the post.
thanks and appreciate.
your supporter
Si Pin
April 14th, 2009 at 11:14 am
To Ragavan:
Thanks for posting.
I never said I was busy with business. But I will admit that I still need to work to make ends meet, just like you do. Do you have a family, I’m sure they need you to bring food to the table. That’s the responsibility of a father.
I find it odd that our VP ( I presume he’s a good friend of yours, otherwise you wont be writing such an enthusiastic comment here) never consulted anybody before making statements, including the person involved in the proposal – me!
To Hang Tuah:
Thanks for posting.
You should be glad that there are people who are still committed to the struggles of the party but not leeching onto the party for favours, unlike some!
Ah Tok
April 14th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
If loud, umno licker and gungho politician is the one that people wants, he is the man. To propose SP as a pol sec is an underestimate statement. Person like Ong Thean Lai is more suitable. One must understand the underlying reason of a politician’s comment esp the one without meeting of the minds is not fostering unity and understanding within the party. Salam berjuang! (wth sincerity)
Brian Khor
April 14th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Si Pin,
u should ask your party to bring displinary action against Mr Huan.
Anyway, since Mr Huan brought it up in the paper, I suggest u clear up the air by publishing your response statement with the chinese press. ( so as to avoid any public misunderstanding on u).
I think ur response is timely and the youth in your party should not be seen as “power & cabinet crazy” like your party president, none other than Koh Tsu Koon!
David Chin
April 15th, 2009 at 2:49 am
is this Mr Huan still a youth in your party? Looks like an old man and a busy body.
David Chin
April 15th, 2009 at 2:52 am
Anyway, I think u should just accept Mr Huan’s view. If u don’t want the post, just say so. No point being rude to him.
And I am quite suprise to read that u wrote “my work in the corporate sector does not allow me the time nor the flexibility to do so”. In that case, do u have time in politics in the first place????
I find it strange that u responded in such manner.
A word of advise……”quit politics if u have no time…..don’t enter just because ur father was the ex-president of your party”. There r a lot of politician’s son in this country who does not enter politics.
Don’t destroy ur party!
Ragavan
April 15th, 2009 at 3:19 am
Sdra,
Most of the readers here giving the same opinion. The point is simple. If you wanna be a leader, than there are things that need to be sacrifice. I do ok. I sacrifice my time, money, life more for the community at this ground level than you do.
I dont need to be the VP’s fren. Your statement clearly shows you want to run from your responsibilities and commitment. If some1 suggest me to the post, i will feel proud and honored.
Well the statement by brian Khor shows he is your supporter. What a childish comment. What action that it needs to be taken when it was a mere suggestion to appoint you as Secretary. Good Joke for the day from Brian.
David Chin, your second comment was good.
David Chin
April 15th, 2009 at 3:43 am
At the very least, Lim Si Pin got the balls to tell Koh Tsu Koon (@KTK=Kow Tow King) the following:-
http://www.limsipin.com/?p=178#comments
(see his response to me at the bottom of the page)
My honest (personal) opinion. No, I do not agree that Dr KTK takes up the Minister post. Firstly, he has already served 4 years as an MP and later 18 years as the CM of Penang. I think its time that he concentrates on rebuilding the party and work towards rebranding a healthier image for the party. In that respect, he should delegate the Cabinet position to a younger and dynamic person within the ranks. Perhaps somebody who is in the CWC of the Party.
And knowing that once I have said that, you might be thinking that I’m also eyeing for that position. Let me then state my position clearly – anybody within the party ranks is eligible, except me.
“I don’t believe the last part”……..does anyone believe Lim Si Pin?
Ronnie
April 15th, 2009 at 3:49 am
I think what Ragavan said is unfair to the blog owner here.
I think what Lim Si Pin meant was he feels it is better for him to do something for his family rather than for the party since he did not get the Minister post. And it is insulting for him to be appointed as a secretary to Koh Tsu Koon.
Hang Tuah
April 15th, 2009 at 4:00 am
I believe there are quite a few in the party who are ready to take up the position of Youth Chief, who have already made the prerequisite sacrifice to serve the country…give others a chance…especially those who have the means, and don’t have to worry about making millions and taking of the family…I know a few who are quire secure financially and therefore can focus full time on politics…
CG HUAN
April 15th, 2009 at 5:51 am
I think you are worst than Koh Tsu Koon!
David Chin
April 15th, 2009 at 7:23 am
Hang Tuah,
it is not about financial stability of a person…..it is about whether the person really have the interest n passion to become the leader. If the person have “the focus” but don’t have the passion to bring the party n the country to greater height, then i think this person also cannot be a leader la.
David Chin
April 15th, 2009 at 7:24 am
David Chin
April 15th, 2009 at 7:26 am
BTW how long have Lim Si Pin take up the youth chief post in Gerakan?
I think Hang Tuah & Ragavan must also look at the performance of Lim Si Pin before making comments.
Hang Tuah
April 15th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
David,
you sound like a very naive chap…..
Raymond
April 15th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Interesting !
I believe Huan’s suggestion was offered in good faith but perhaps as Si Pin has mentioned, he should have used the proper channel in discussing first with the Youth CC prior to making such a statement. At present, it is a delicate situation as there are too many criticisms being levelled at the Party President for his appointment to the Cabinet despite his defeat during the last GE. I firmly believe that Si Pin is not one who craves for power, attention nor does he desire the public limelight like so many present day politicians from both sides of the divide do. Which manual does it say that you need to hold public office once you are elected as Youth Chief ! No doubt public office will give you “jalan” and machinery to further one’s party agenda but so often present day politicians seem to only seize public office to grease their own pockets and further their private agendas ! No, I don’t see Si Pin as your usual everyday politician. He is plain honest and downright truthful when he says his present commitments doesnt allow him to assume public office. Perhaps if he can sort out his corporate commitments then I am sure he will reconsider ! And I know he will only do so because he thinks he can do the job well enough. But whatever his present circumstances, It is unfair to say that his existing limitations imply that he is not effective in discharging his duties as Ketua Pemuda of Gerakan. Some commentators are quite right to say that Si Pin doesnt need not be involved in politics but i believe he got involved not because of the need to preserve the political lineage or because he has too much time in his hands like some polticians do, but he did so simply because he thinks he can contribute. Sounds too naive ! Not really and not if you are Si Pin.
romerz
April 15th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Si Pin,
I’m not going to wade in on an internal matter since you know I no longer have faith in your party. (too many wrong actions for the wrong reasons)
All i ask of you is if you really care for ordinary Malaysians, search yourself hard and long.
Are you prepared for the sacrifices required to put right this country of ours? Our country needs huge sacrifices from well meaning Malaysians and unfortunately I don’t see it from the party I gave 3 of my votes to.
My own mistake and no one else to blame but myself! But trust me, I won’t make the same mistake twice!
Shaan
April 16th, 2009 at 3:45 am
This is my first time writing here. And I can sense that some of the commentators like David Chin, is total CRAP!
It is not important how long Lim Si Pin had taken up the post of Youth Chief in Gerakan but more importantly, what had he done since taking up the post. What had he contributed to the party and the country since then?
I can understand the feeling of Romerz as the top leaders in Gerakan, including Koh Tsu Koon is useless!!!!
I got no idea who Huan Cheng Guan is…….but he looks like a BUMP to me!
David Chin
April 16th, 2009 at 3:48 am
Hang Tuah,
u can go and hang urself.
Si Pin,
I think it is good if u can name a few things which u have done for the party and the country so as to silent people like Hang Tuah.
David Chin
April 16th, 2009 at 5:02 am
Si Pin,
i read at todays chinese paper Kwong Wah daily that u have been shortlisted as Koh Tsu Koon’s political secretary, together with Liang Tek Meng, and your secretary general Mr Lau. Another person Mr Ong Tean Lai from Penang. (not sure about the spelling of the names).
I think u should clarify with the press as the public will see that you are still crazy for the post. This is not good for gerakan.
Even a friend of mine today said that why you as gerakan youth chief still desperate to be secretary for Koh Tsu Koon (this person got no balls).
David Chin
April 16th, 2009 at 5:09 am
Another thing, I think you should let the press know that your youth committee like Mr Lau and the rest of the group is not desperate to be the secretary and carry the balls for Koh Tsu Koon (if he has any)
Hang Tuah
April 16th, 2009 at 7:14 am
Si Pin to list what he has done for Gerakan, it will be a mighty short list, ha ha ha…
anyway if Koh Tsu Koon is to be an effective Minister for Unity he should make sure his staff are representative of all ethnicity’s in Malaysia, not all Chinese like in his party Gerakan.
petestop
April 16th, 2009 at 11:54 am
When you don’t have an ideology or a principle driving you, this is what you get.
Already pointed out so many times that Gerakan has lost its ideology and no longer working for the Rakyat, just working for themselves and their syok-sendiri leaders.
So called leaders who cares more about putting food in his mouth.
Better you just concentrate leading your family,
don’t try to be hero and lead Gerakan Youth.
If the heart not there, just admit it, resign and let somebody who actually stick true to his principles take over.
Someone like Doc Hsu, but oops, he is too old and I sincerely believe he is more qualified to take over from Koh Tsu Koon.
Then perhaps Gerakan still have some hope left to regain the Rakyat’s confidence.
Brian Khor
April 16th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Si Pin,
I also read Kwong Wah chinese newspaper today. My friends said that he thought u lobbying hard for the post as secretary for Koh Tsu Koon.
I think u better make it clear to the press to clarify. Otherwise it would look bad on you.
Petestop,
are you from gerakan? who is this doc hsu? never heard of him.
ryan
April 16th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
FYI, below is the Dr Hsu’s blog:
http://hsudarren.wordpress.com/
I can’t believe some of the self-claimed Gerakan members do not even know him.
What an irony. Sentence like “who is THIS doc hsu” clearly shows nil respect to one of the remaining members with conscience =(
ryan
April 16th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Dear Brian,
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/opinion/hsudarren/23356-to-yb-from-your-boss
Dr Hsu is also one of the guest writers for Malaysian Insider, one of the biggest online news portal.
Brian Khor
April 16th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Ryan,
thank you for your info.
But what had Dr Hsu done for the party to date or contributed to the country?
Which of his writing being adopted in our country’s policy? or even adopted by any person?
How can you compare him to Lim Si Pin, who is Gerakan National Youth chief? You know how much he had contributed to the party and the country?
ryan
April 16th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Dear Brian,
First and foremost, contribution to a party is totally different from to the country. Look at UMNO and I guess you will get what I mean.
Secondly, blogs cannot be adopted into a country’s policy. A policy will be implemented by a ministry and only those elected ministers and the authority can do so. Problem is whether the policy is a bull-shit policy without sufficient studies prior to implementation/lack of proper framework and pre-planning/inherently nonsense in nature (like the AP policy) or is it really a beneficial one to the rakyat. Dr Hsu may not be influential to allow his ideology to be adopted. However, that doesn’t hinder from being a great man as numerous readers have been benefited from his writings and courageous opinions against political yes-men. Let me ask you one question – does your pary VP Mr Huan has “his WRITINGS BEING APODTED IN OUR COUNTRY’S POLICY”?
How can I compare him to Mr Lim? I DID not make any comparison here, mind you. But bear in the mind the simple fact – a position held a person does give a person power (institional power). Regardless of the position, contribution is totally not associated with the power a person has access to. National Youth Chief and, so? I recognize the position held but I am still skeptical towards the so-called contributions you have mentioned repetitively (Si Pin, no offense here). There are many more youth chiefs out there and I can easily name you ten. However, ask your conscience, how much have they contributed? Keris wielding? nah~
I have been following Si Pin’s blog for one or two years since my second year in university. As I admit that his opinions towards certain issues should be applauded, there is much more he can do given his position (if Gerakan is still relevant in the coalition). Talk is useless if it is not being complemented with concrete actions. However, I do appreciate that Si Pin is somewhat responsive towards the readers’ comments and this is what I like about him
=)
Brian Khor
April 17th, 2009 at 2:44 am
Ryan,
i was referring to the comparison made earlier by petestop.
Since u was trying to promoto dr hsu’s name here, i just assume u try to implied to comparison between them.
Anyway, i just visited dr hsu blog, I think he is just another common blogger. Nothing special. Cheap straight talk with no actual action on his side. There is a difference between a writter n a politician. Look at Tian Chua, Khoo Kay Peng, Raja Petra, (just to name a few). They write and also made it in action.
Anyway, r u a Gerakan member in the first place?
Mind u that here is Lim Si Pin’s blog and not that Dr Hsu!!!
Brian Khor
April 17th, 2009 at 2:49 am
Si Pin,
please remember to clear your name in the Chinese newspaper as it seems that your national youth and yourself are hard up to be the political secretary for Koh Tsu Koon i.e. to be his ball carrier (if he still have it)!
A Normal Person
April 17th, 2009 at 3:22 am
People say once you become a leader, all eyes are focused on you and waiting for something to happen. This is so true. Suddenly so many people who stalk this blog starting to throw stones when the opportunity come.
Base on the comments, I learned that:
1) Full time politician got no income one, the money fall from sky? Why no body ever thought that here is a man who try to earn an honest living and to serve the community rather than earning dirty money?
2) No respect to you even if you try to defend yourself in your own blog (not even the press). I wonder why is SP even bother to manually approve the comments that can cause so much pain in his heart.
I think he must be so hurt (as a human, not a politician or leader) that he wouldn’t bother to reply to these comments anymore.
Calvin
April 17th, 2009 at 3:48 am
I seldom comment here but I cannot stand but to state my views here:-
1. A Normal Person is Lim Si Pin or his proxy
2. Lim Si Pin just gives to much excuses for not performing a duty to his party or the country. He can’t even help out his party president. And always condemn him only.
3. He is an arrogant leader who hits out at people who try to help him….n propose him to take up an important post for the party and the country.
4. Talk about money……..he already earning so much n more than enough to feed his family. Unless “feeding his family” means buying a yacht or ferrari for each of them. So, why so greedy? Why not put some time to help out your party n ur country?
BTW i think that the post as secretary to KTK is a salaried post……so, isn’t that helping to feed ur family? Unless u mean u r not paid millions!
5. what’s wrong accepting the post as Secretary to Koh Tsu Koon? Maybe u can help to guide him to a right path instead of always criticising him from behind……..if KTK got no balls, u r a chicken playing from behind! Be a man like ur father Keng Yaik
Sorry, if my comment r to blunt but that was just my straight talk!
Brian Khor
April 17th, 2009 at 3:51 am
A Normal Person,
what u said sounds logical.
But I think Si Pin must put emotion aside and be brave like his father, Tun Lim Keng Yaik to face all criticism.
And I think people should give him more time to prove himself. How long only has he been in politics?
Aaron
April 17th, 2009 at 3:59 am
Dr. Hsu more qualified than Dr.Koh? Greatest joke of all! Talk about oratorship, intellectual, hardwork , exposure and experience – not even an inch close between them.
ryan
April 17th, 2009 at 6:55 am
Dear normal person,
While some of the criticisms may be harsh or rude, the fact that Si Pin actually approve the comments and listen to them is a process of which he can emerge to be a greater leader. At least, this makes him to be different some those useless tyrants in BN (you guys know who). If a leader’s perpective is sole limited to a personal point of view, using individual values in running an organization, this will immediately spell the doom of the organization. See Najib who discuss rhetorics of being HUMBLE in his blog – don’t you feel shallow and hollow to see such words produced by the top country leader. A common corporate term like KPI is made a big fuss and I am uttery disappointed to see BN members to make a hoo-hah over such a common performance appraisal being implemented in the cabinet.
Brian Khor,
You “think” he is another common blogger. “nothing special?”
I regret that you are ill-informed of his participation in grass-root level. How many crap talks have the politicians made and no actions are seen? e.g. BN membership, eradication of corruption, instutionalized fair treatment towards ALL malaysians, etc etc. Same logic, politicians may be given a position, but this has no association with contributions or whatsoever. A write can be inspiring and serve the roles of educating the leaders. Mind you, Karl Marx’s Das Capital has infleunced its readers until these days after decades. Although Capitalism is the dominant ideology throughout the world, his works do provide a perspective for us to run the countries by intergrating socialisme in ensuring equity and quality. The significance a writer can make is certainly no less than a politican. Do make a sound arguement. =)
A Normal Person
April 17th, 2009 at 7:06 am
Honestly, I get to know Darren Hsu through this blog, not The Malaysian Insider. He is indeed a good writer and his thoughts are open and good. I enjoy reading his articles and have high respect in him.
But, I don’t see how is the comparison being brought here, both are different individuals and trying to serve the nation with their different strength, capacity and opportunity given.
We may decide who is the better politicians or the so call “winner” by how good they blog and their ideas but we as the rakyat will be the biggest “losers” if all these politicians don’t walk their talk.
If I don’t believe in SP, I wouldn’t even bother to visit his blog , what more to leave a positive/negative comment. There is no benefit to to bring him up or down. If I’m given a chance to say something here, I would choose to encourage the person to do good for us. If I want to say something bad, I will email him or give him a call to address the issue.
ryan
April 17th, 2009 at 7:28 am
yea, that is why i reject brian’s question of comparing Dr Hsu and Si Pin. It is totally irrelevant and useless in justifying his argument that Dr Hsu is “common”, “nothing special, full of “cheap talks and no actions”.
And I agree with u that Si Pin is somewhat out-spoken and is daring under the political contexts of BN. But while you choose to encourage him, harsh comments are equally important for a person to reflect upon himself when the loyal party members tend to groupthink altogether. Comments posted via blog can serve as a constant reminder although I do agree to refrain from being vullgar and rude.
Cheers.
A Normal Person
April 17th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Ryan: I am so agree with you on that !
cheers.
petestop
April 17th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Unfortunately it seems that some people still live in a cocoon.
“Katak bawah tempurung” is the most appropriate description.
The fact that Dr Hsu’s blog is *the* most popular blog with direct links from Gerakan’s own website and still Gerakan’s own members don’t know who Dr Hsu is, really speaks a lot about this alternate reality that some Malaysian still choose to live in.
After 308, the first thing I do is to go to Gerakan website to find out its ideology, but for almost a month it was just a broken link.
Says a lot does’nt it ?
I can believe now why there are still 15~20% non-Malays who still voted for UMNO controlled BeEnd.
Despite UMNO’s remarks that they don’t need support from other races, and at the same time says that they cannot count on BeEnd component party to deliver the non-Malay votes.
Very telling isn’t it, that these BeEnd component parties are just that, one BIG, FAT LIE just to get the non-Malay votes.
Brian Khor
April 17th, 2009 at 10:43 am
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Brian Khor
April 17th, 2009 at 10:43 am
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Brian Khor
April 17th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
anyway, i think the discussion about Dr. Hsu is wasting people’s time as he is virtually a nobody …..apart from the fans of this blog website.
I just asked a few friends, from DAP, PKR and even MCA……n no one got a clue who this dr hsu is.
But they definitely know who is Koh Tsu Koon and Lim Si Pin. If u don;t believe, just go out n try ask someone from the street.
And 1 one them knew who Huan Cheng Guan is.
Anyway, Ryan n Petestop, besides Lim Si Pin, I don’t think there is any other well known person in the Gerakan Youth section.
A Normal Person
April 17th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Response to Calvin:
>>A Normal Person is Lim Si Pin or his proxy
It seems like this blog can only have negative comments, if there is anyone to leave good comment, he/she will be consider as LSP or proxy. If I am LSP, I must be very hardworking since day 1 of this blog, if I am a proxy, I must be paid A LOT to do this? LOL.
>>Lim Si Pin just gives to much excuses for not
performing a duty to his party or the country. He can’t even help out his party president. And always condemn him only.
You must be KTK or his proxy.
>>He is an arrogant leader who hits out at people who try to help him….n propose him to take up an important post for the party and the country.
You must be HCG or his proxy.
>> Talk about money……..he already earning so much n more than enough to feed his family. Unless “feeding his family” means buying a yacht or ferrari for each of them. So, why so greedy? Why not put some time to help out your party n ur country?
AGREE, he should put up some google ads at the sidebar too.
>>BTW i think that the post as secretary to KTK is a salaried post……so, isn’t that helping to feed ur family? Unless u mean u r not paid millions!
Not sure if its salaried or not but even it is, how much?
>> what’s wrong accepting the post as Secretary to Koh Tsu Koon? Maybe u can help to guide him to a right path instead of always criticising him from behind……..if KTK got no balls, u r a chicken playing from behind! Be a man like ur father Keng Yaik
Man…. I really starting to believe that politics is dirty…. I thought all that on the news was hyped but now I seriously BELIEVE SO…. can you stop flaming here and there and just give honest thoughts with action plan? Get a life or something, there are more things to do than leaving sick comments at ppl’s blog.
>>Sorry, if my comment r to blunt but that was just my straight talk!
I’m sorry too but it’s been a long time since I’m so emo!
ryan
April 17th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Dear Brian,
I am sorry to see that your exposure towards the political movement in Malaysia remains narrow and myopic. Just argument as “I ask my frens who are from XXX” is used as a validation? There are millions and mllions members out there and I think I can simply pick anyone on the road =)
You stay convinced your argument of being “well known, chief youth, policians vs writers”. Just that I am kind of disappointed to see such rigid mentality which do not think objectively
Cheers
romerz
April 18th, 2009 at 1:38 am
I’ve known KTK for 23 years and worked under him for 10 years in the service of Penang. This may not qualify as much to some for me to comment but I will anyway when I read such delusional loyalty to an ineffective leader given the times we are in.
I have no doubts about KTK’s honesty and humility as a person but I question his decisiveness and courage to do the unpalatable when the shit hits the fan.
Like those of you who have been in close proximity with him over a duration of time, he is what I would call a people friendly leader in good times but when tough times are at hand and strong leadership is sought, he procrastinates for fear of offending anyone.
Unfortunately today, the situation in Malaysia is such that it calls for tough measures which can only be brought about by tough and sometimes unpopular decisions.
I believe I know where most of the reader’s comments are coming from. Most who visit this blog are either Gerakan members of supporters of the party one time or another.
It is hard to say that one has been wrong in supporting a party which boasted so much but capable of so little today. It took me a whole six months before I could let go and accept that Gerakan no longer fights (and I really mean fight) for my wishes of a Malaysian Malaysia.
KTK’s primary concern today is to keep your party alive but that in itself is a double edged sword. In order to keep alive Gerakan, he has to sink or swim with UMNO/BN and this in itself will sink Gerakan further.
For those of you close enough to KTK, ask him this. About a month after the 12th GE, I met him at the Gerakan CEO white coffee talk near Queensbay. I waited until the talk was over and I approached him and told him of a plan to revive Gerakan’s fortunes using the internet (too lengthy to go into details but it involved interaction with every level of Gerakan’s membership using the internet supported by SMS).
His reply to me?
“Good idea but unfortunately there is a sizable membership of Gerakan who are not conversant in English and may not be receptive to the internet.”
In short he had told me that Gerakan, the non-racial party is so afraid of alienating the Mandarin speaking majority of the party. So what happened to Gerakan’s platform of non-racial politics?
Look deep within yourselves and understand why Gerakan had to ‘abandon’ its non-racial platform and cater more and more towards the Chinese.
The simple answer is its believe that BN is the answer all for Malaysia and the need to be part of it, all the whilst being manipulated by the racists of UMNO into thinking that its relevance in BN can only be achieved by opposing MCA who claims the same support base.
Think people, think hard!
Today in my eyes, Gerakan is a pale shadow of itself. Forget the ideals and a better Malaysia. It is all about survival. Survival until when? Until the next GE when we finally read your obituary?
And the party promised so much but unfortunately, it is today infested with people who haven’t a clue how to be relevant again.
This tiff in Si Pin’s blog? Nothing but bravado but when the shit hits the fan for us as a nation, where are your tough actions? (words no longer suffice!)
Aaron,
Dr Hsu may not compare to KTK in your eyes but at least he is speaking the hard truth now given this time of need for our nation. He is less preoccupied with saving the party than saving the nation!
Loyalty is a good trait but remember to whom. I am still loyal to KTK as a friend but no more than that. The destiny of our country is at stake and sometimes being good at heart is not enough.
It most probably will require standing up to the bully and putting fears aside. And we do this because we love our country!
It would be wise for Gerakan and its loyal members to remember this!
Hard times calls for hard sacrifices!!!
ryan
April 18th, 2009 at 11:16 am
In current politicals, absolute loyalty is only pleged towards authoritarian regime. Loyalty, while it is treasured some political leaders with feudal mindset, the urge of being different is the one which propel one to excel.
Some of the loyal members can indulged in their gratification of loyalty, look high upon the leaders and be a failthful follower. However, no matter how they want just justify themselves and fend off the criticisms, external negative perceptions have already being formed. At the end of the day when the truth is realized, I hope it is not too late
Brian Khor
April 18th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Ryan,
It would be better if u make a comparison between Koh Tsu Koon with Lim Si Pin.
Don’t just because Dr Hsu is your friend or your favourite blog then you try to promote him here.
I feel that Lim Si Pin may have the ability to take over President of Party Gerakan from Koh Tsu Koon in the next party election (not sure when), whether be it a friendly takeover or by election against KTK. Times up for KTK.
Perhaps, it is good for Si Pin to reject as KTK secretary now…….aim for the bigger thing, the President n the Ministership!
ryan
April 18th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
lol.
Comparison is relative and is dependent of context.
I know no1 personally here. I only stop by Dr Hsu sparingly but I was amazed bu the reputation he holds. I am just a poor undergrad who has been “exiled” by the BN government. Therefore, I have been trying to look things at broader perspective, unlike you.
You feel that……..? A view with no justification again. I see that subjective bias is very common to some of the people here.
Ministership/president or whatsoever position is not a gauge for a person’s achievements and aspirations. Guess you still cannot get it now. Did Martin Luther King and M. Gandhi hold any “ministership” to be infuential and bring goods to the society? PATHETIC MINDSET~
Sigh~
ryan
April 18th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Please refer to Romerz’s reply. When a organization loses its objectives, missions and most importantly VISION, whatever posts (since you are a fanatic about power) a person is holding is useless. Position grants a person power bt if the power is not out into proper use, it is a disaster I would say.
I am utterly disappointed to see such shallow mindset instilled in malaysinas these days.
ryan
April 18th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
“..put into…”
Brian Khor
April 18th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Ryan,
i think u r too naive to understand politics in Malaysia.
Would Lim Si Pin be anybody if he is not the youth chief of gerakan or his father not being the ex-President of Gerakan or Minister?
That’s why I am saying that Si Pin needs to contest against Koh Tsu Koon.
Anyway, how could you take Gandi or Martin Luther King as comparison to Dr Hsu?
Just just need to take example of Raja Petra is good enought. He is a good blogger, writer and puts his writing and words in action…….. but i have not heard of such things from this Dr. Hsu. That’s the difference between them!…….too much theory without any thing being practical. If Gerakan have such President, then the party is finish immediately! (i.e. at least KTK will finish the party slowly and not immediately)
ryan
April 18th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
first and foremost, i did not say Dr Hsu is going to be the president.
Second, you ask Si Pin to contest against KTK, again, without any supporting argument
Third, I did not compare Dr Hsu with those leaders. I am dismayed that you focus only on “comparing” whenever you want to make a statement. My point is that – position may grant a person power, but at the end of the day it is up to a person’s discretion to contribution. You may not have any clue about your party visions, missions and objective – but as a leader, this must be made clear.
An undergraduate may be young but not naiive. This is the N times I have been branded naive by so-called adults who can’t even apprehend and comprehend what people are talking about.
Politics are merely streetfights if the politicians themselves are not knowledgeble enough. This is the simple reason why there are always silly argument among the politicians when they are trapped in their myopic views
oldman
April 18th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
(i.e. at least KTK will finish the party slowly and not immediately)
Brain, KTK will finish off the party??? Why & how?
David Chin
April 19th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Ryan,
stop being defensive……I think Brian what just stating his views.
Si Pin, do u think BN should contest at Penanti or not?
Waste of time
April 19th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Why waste time arguing. Gerakan is a sinking ship. It has a broken engine and a captain who dont know what to do.
Abandon ship!
Si Pin
April 21st, 2009 at 12:07 pm
A By-Election created by frivolous means is not a good idea at all. By that I mean, resigning for no reason except insanity, bankrupt or death.
So my take is, don’t go for any By-Election. Let PKR take back the seat (allow a walk over) but compel the new ADUN to do a good job. Who ever is on that seat must be given a chance to perform.
But if she/he does not, we must be prepared to makes changes to whom our representatives will be in the future!
Ragavan
April 22nd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Brian :
Si Pin to lead Gerakan. HAHA. What a joke. a selfish leader who cant carry the responsibility now, should not given a bigger task. There are many more out there who can lead Gerakan.
David Chin
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Ryan,
do you think Si Pin is a good gerakan youth leader?
Please be honest in this response.
ryan
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Dear David,
I am not in the position to judge, honestly. But as said, I believe Si Pin could have done more given his political background and that Gerakan need to change its mindset in order to survive.
Richard from Penang
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:21 pm
I think Si Pin is a good leader…….leading people to DOOM!!!!
Richard from Penang
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:22 pm
How can he be a leader when he just hides behind his father all the time?
Everytime got problem or issue, he turns to his father. SHAMELESS Leader……worse than KTK
Jason Yuen
April 23rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Richard from Penang,
You seem to have some personal vendetta against Si Pin.
Maybe u should take it up with him directly.
As for some of you others, calling for sacrifice, etc etc.
Don’t be silly.
I for one totally support the idea in Singapore – pay our top leaders some of the top salaries. We want the BEST people leading our country. There is nothing wrong with a leader earning good money – as long as it is earned in legitimate means. I don’t mind if our PM earns RM1-2 mil or more per year – he’s running the WHOLE COUNTRY!
I just need our PM to do the best job possible in the right way!
Finally, in case any of you start to think that I’m a proxy for Si Pin, pls go and check my other comments on this blog.
robertchai
April 23rd, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Saudara,
Pemuda Gerakan need to be proactive and be relevant with the youth. Salute you for not taking up Sdr Huan Cheng Guan suggestion. He is trying to play politic. Politic is reasoning. You need to brush up to any answer that propose to you. Forgive you for be straight forward. Pemuda Gerakan youth is on your side . Work harder and try to mobilize more youth. What I have seen in Pemuda Gerakan in the present day?
We need more soldiers and not general. What we got in Pemuda Gerakan is lame duck leaders? Is it time to plan more aggresive, proactive, informative programmes to draw more youth toward Pemuda Gerakan? Time is on your side. Be more approachable, go down to the ground and listen to your grassroot.
robertchai
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:09 pm
KTK perform better than Dr. Hsu? A lot of inconsistent with his view and ideas. Given a chance to contribute to Gerakan as Education Bureau Chief but give up not even quarter way. Waste my vote for him for CC. Is this the leader we want? Gerakan can kapoo with him.
Richard from Penang
April 25th, 2009 at 12:21 am
Robert Chai,
what do you mean “TIme is on your side”?
Do you mean you still agree Si Pin to be lazy and do nothing for the youth section? What had he done to date for the youth? It is almost a year since he took over as youth chief.
DO YOU THINK THAYTJUST BECAUSE HIS FATHER IS LKY, AND HE NO NEED TO DO ANYTHING?
You think LKY can still pressure KTK, TCY and THN to support him?
I also regret giving my votes to him during last year election. Next election, he can be sure than he will loose 6 votes from me and my friends. Last time, I got no choice because KTK n THN supported him. Now, I got green light to support other people next time.
Gerakan Youth will only rot with LIM SI PIN!
Richard from Penang
April 25th, 2009 at 12:34 am
At least Hsu Darren got the courtesy to resign and let other people to take up the Education bureau since he felt his working style and views is different with President. That is honorable of him as better than for him to let the bureau go down the drain.
But Lim Si Pin openly criticise our President everyday in his blog and even disagree KTK taking up Minister. Isn’t it good for KTK to take up minister? (unless Si Pin is only thinking of the negotiating a deputy minister for himself)
everyone knows that Keng Yaik and Si Pin just want to pressure KTK to ask Najib to give Si Pin a deputy minister (and remove Senator Kohilan). But both the father and son should understand that even if KTK ask Najib, Najib will not give Si Pin as Lim Si Pin is a joke in public eyes (so, it was better for KTK to choose Kohilan). In fact, it is well known among BN youth that he is the most useless youth chief. Even PPP Youth Chief is better than him – T. Murugiah (which i see him on TV3 and RTM helping people at Kuala Lumpur).
So, if Si Pin got any honor and wants to save the party, he should follow Dr Hsu Darren and resign since he does not share the same idealogy with our President and always does not represent the youth section in any CC and CWC meeting with the main body. He always skip the meeting without giving any valid excuses.
Robert, please go and check all the facts. If you find it right, perhaps you can reconsider your support to Lim Si Pin.
bushcai
May 2nd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Well,
There are two parties now,one is support Huan,another is Si Pin. I don’t bias to anybody. Let me comment that Lim Si Pin should brush up your knowledge how to answer people questions.You are very weak in this field. Pls learn how to answer ppl questions.
Huan,you are very good commenter but sometimes too much.Party issues should settle in-house. Don’t act as a hero ,spread all over Malaysia.
bushcai
May 2nd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Well,
It is no pt. arguing each other end up most of the candidates loss their elections. I suggest Lim SI Pin should act his father suggestion last year saying that Gerakan needs reform.How to reform?Just talking no action is meaningless.
robertchai
May 6th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Move on LSP. Gerakan Youth is with you. Let have more brain storming seminar with your youth to draft new direction for Gerakan Youth. Work, proactive and
meet regularly. You can recoup and make the
Gerakan Youth a force to recognise with.
Tan Ban Soon
June 4th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
party matters should’nt be published , settle in house like family business, pgrm doesn’t belong
to single individual, why should we fights against
ourself while dap & pkr attack us everyday, I feel shame of u guys, come on we r adults don’ t be childish as road still very far from reachig, do not ask anyone to resign including HCG or LSP as we do not care who his father is but the fact is he youth chairman, respect his rank, Huan CG great VP speaks words loud & clear, voice of grassroot. CWC-who r u to stop HCG from speaking the truth
& HCG dont ever threaten the party again as u ve
to understand pkr is monster,anwar is hantu, satu hati does not come easy,so pls stay put we will back u as I am also a CC, last year my VP was 4 u.
KTK,LSP,THN,HCG should work as a team,no more jokes,u want post, must work hard as pgrm
cant stand of civil war,pls unite. P/s I was crying all the way while writing this because I love pgrm
chen boy boy
June 4th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
hi big guys,can u pls stop making nonsense,take good care at members & grassroot as without them
who e u? KTK should act stronger dont like tiffany
limsp visit more states will make u understand more problems bottom people facing.
KC Cheah
June 15th, 2009 at 12:22 am
hi sdr/ sdri friends n gerakan supporter
now i think is the time for the party displinary committee to take action to suspend sdr. Huan Cheng Guan membership at least 3 year, to show our gerakan is a party with good will, displine, responsibilty ,trustworth, and really servce the people and nation. this Huan Cheng Guan is a double agent in our party, if he still in our party top leadership, gerakan is no hope for next general election. we observe this guy for some time , very poor in knowledge, like gangster , hu ha hu ha only, “tin kosong + half past 6″ this type people , gerakan member elected him as VP malu lah, now he work for Mr Teoh (PKZ boss) , taken away our tax payer money 12.5b. all bad boy.
so gerakan chairman khor tsu khoon must got ball to take displin action sack him out of the party or suspend him at least 3 year, if not god bless GERAKAN.
berilmu
June 20th, 2009 at 8:37 am
no wonder,he is working for Mr Teoh.His face also looks like YbTiong. If taking disciplinary action straight away terminate his membership. He said he has a thousand followers.If next election comes,what is the big deal loss another more 2 thousand votes.
bushcai
June 20th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
KC Cheah,
Bingo, ur prediction very accurate.
Robinhood
July 14th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Honestly, I do sympathise Si Pin. Knowing him personally, Si Pin is just too much an outright truthful person to be a successful politician. Perhaps, he is trying to create a ‘blue ocean’ for himself. By the way, what’s wrong being straightforward???? Everybody is entitled to their opinion anyway.
Just to correct some misconception here, Si Pin was made the Youth Chief here by the delegates and not appointed by his father. Are u telling me that his father force the delegates to vote for him or ‘bribed’ them???? There are many historical examples of the same political developments. Isn’t that natural???? Knowing this, that is why Keng Yaik chose to retire before the whole event took place. I am not going say much whether he is qualified to be the Youth Chief. But to be fair, why don’t you people give him some time to prove himself.
Gerakan is not UMNO. We have don’t have lots of “proyek” to sustain the members’ rice bowl, so and again what’s wrong to work for the corporate sector. Unless u people are telling me that u have inherited lots of wealth from your grandfather etc. to keep u going. Please be objective ok…
Why is Huan CG so worked up when his people are not appointed to take up the coordinator post??? Come on people, please use your senses and think for God’s sake. Do some background search too about Huan CG before u people protect your beloved leader.
CS Teoh
February 2nd, 2010 at 7:08 pm
to Mr Huan Cheng Guan,
Why are you so sibuk t ocomment on YB Lim Guan Eng being arrogant, etc. You mind your own business, we voters is able to judge who is able to perform the job and who are ball lickers, corrupted like you. If you are so good, you will not be kicked-out of Gerakan and join what PCM. Thsi PCM party will be no more before we realize it. Dun waste time. Thank you